Online Education – Masters Degree at WVU

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While I’m on the topic of West Virginia University, I recently found some very interesting information about their Masters programs. The university is now offering several degrees completely online. That’s right, I said completely online. I’ve looked into masters degrees since I started working towards my bachelors, and most of the masters programs were either from completely online schools, or from tiny institutions. It’s great to see that the bigger, state universities are getting into this type of education!

A question that must get asked a lot (based on the fact that I’ve seen it on on the FAQ page of nearly every brick and mortar institution offering online degrees that I’ve looked at), is whether or not your degree is “marked” as having been obtained online versus the traditional route.  The resounding answer that I have seen in every case is no. The degree you get online from a school like WVU is the same degree as every other student who physically went to the school.

WVU would have definitely been my first college choice, but because of the distance from my home, it was not viable. Through their masters program I may yet be a WVU alumnus!

Graduate degrees offered online.

Undergraduate degrees offered online.

Transfer Issues Cont…

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This is a follow-up to a post I wrote about transfer issues for a class that was supposed to transfer. Just when I thought it couldn’t get more difficult, something like this happens…. After filling out two forms, exchanging emails with academic advisors, academic advising supervisors, Testing Center coordinators and a professor that teaches the class, it’s been decided that I can not take the exam and get credit for the class. !@$@#%$#% One of the most frustrating thing about all this is the amount of time it took to get a no answer. I submitted the first request on October 10th!

 

The reason this class matters is where it falls in my list of prerequisites. To get to any of my senior level courses and some of my junior level courses, this course has to be completed. I was planning on starting this class at the beginning of fall, being forced to wait until spring would absolutely wreck my chances of finishing in two years.

 

Thankfully for me, the instructor for the course has agreed to allow me to jump into one of the eight week fall classes that the university offers, even though I would be starting two weeks behind. This adds an unexpected amount of busy-time to my fall schedule. I wish I had gotten my Natural Science CLEP finished before all of this.

 

So in summary, to try and fulfill the requirements for this class:

  • I took a class at another university
  • Took and passed a certification exam
  • Filled out paperwork and wrote close to 20 emails in an attempt to test out of it.
  • Finally enrolled in the class, but now with 2 weeks of work to make up.

All this for a total of 3 credits. Not the most efficient use of my time.

A long drive for an exam

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The final verdict on my transfer credit issue isn’t great, but it’s better than I thought it would be. It’s going to require that I drive the roughly four hours one way to the college to take an exam for the credit. I was a little angry at first because I did already take the class, but the anger doesn’t help me get the credits. A good thing out of this is that my wife will be able to go along and we will get to so a pseudo-road trip.

 
 

Now I need to figure out the testing center schedule at the school and make arrangements to take off of work so that I don’t lose an entire weekend study day for this. I guess I could study on the drive, but I don’t want to rely on that firstly because I would enjoy spending the talking time with my wife, and secondly because it’s not as productive studying in a vehicle.

 
 

This is one of those times when you just do what you have to do…..

Transfer Issues and Academic “Advisement”

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A plan is wonderful. Even though I’m not a very good planner, but I can still get see a huge difference when I form a plan and stick to it. But of course, there is always something that comes in at the last second and entirely screws up the plan. For me, the kink in the ‘graduate early’ plan has been the poor advice and service of academic and transfer advisers. (They’re usually the same person, but I’ve been dealing with advisers who dealt primarily with transfer evaluations, thus the delineation.)

Immediately upon deciding that I was going to attempt finishing college in two years, I tried to lay out the specific things I needed to do and the order in which I would have to do them. For example, I tried to offset heavy (in terms of credit or difficulty) semesters with less CLEP credits, and also tried to map my class schedule at both schools to knock out prerequisite credits first. So I took about a week and talked to the advisement at community college(CC from now on) I am currently attending as well as the advisement at the four-year institution (4YI from now on) of choice. When talking to each adviser, I let them know that I would be transferring the credit and wanted to minimize wasted courses. In other words, I didn’t need a dance or fencing class, and I didn’t want to take any courses twice. Upon the request of the 4YI, I sent lists of the courses I would be taking for the following three semesters so that they could do an “unofficial transcript evaluation” that would ensure the credits would map correctly. Everything sounded good at the time; although I was a little worried because even after my request to eliminate the fluff classes, my CC adviser suggested a Physical Education class that was not necessary for my degree.

Fast-forward a couple months to the time my high school AP score reaches the 4YI’s transfer evaluation team. Even though I had emailed back and forth directly regarding the credits for this exam and what they would transfer as, the academic adviser (AA from now on) informed me that the credits would not transfer because I had already taken a “similar” class. Of course I wasn’t excited so I forwarded my previous correspondence with the AA to the AA and requested a reevaluation. After reevaluating the transcript, I was awarded 3 out of the 6 credits that were previously granted. Everyone is entitled to mistakes and if this were the only incident, I wouldn’t complain. But there is more… In preparation for the fall semester I sent in an updated version of my transcript as well as a test score to my 4YI. The reply I got was that credit was not given for the test I had taken. I responded with the link on the university website listing the specific credit given for the test. Meanwhile, my transcript had been evaluated and one of the courses that I had been told would transfer as a prerequisite for my major was instead transferred for the class that I just took the exam for! So now I’ve taken an extra exam for no credit and lopped on 3 elective credits that are completely useless to me.

What may be the most viable solution is to attempt to test out of the major prereq class and hope for the best. Although the courses are similar in content, a lot of the terminology is different and the fact that I will be trading an A for a completion grade is depressing. Because of the accelerated timeline I’m dealing with I don’t see many options here. By the time I have this reevaluated and sorted out I could probably have studied for and taken the exam. I wish I had more time to tell some more “Adviser” tales, but I’ve run out. If you get nothing else out of this get this: 1) Don’t leave your college planning in the hands of your adviser and 2) Plans can get screwed up in a hurry.

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